Arrogant Indians; Uppity Blacks
3rd post in and I already need to invoke PlanetGrok’s law of HBD blogs. I went to a substantially African-American high school and I know of blacks all around the economic spectrum, so talking about blacks doesn’t really seem so absurd to be me. Yet, I realize a majority of blogs that focus on group differences (so-called HBD) have more malicious intents. I do not. Still, this is a No-PC zone and while I realize a majority of blacks and Indians are decent people to be around (a majority of both groups are not ‘arrogant’), personal observations should still be talked about.
In a Steve Sailer comment thread I participated in, I noticed several other commenters remark on how ‘arrogant’ Indians in the West behave. PG has noted the narcissism of certain South Asian groups. Even Sasha Baron Cohen has a hilarious Indian-accented schtick based on this in the Madagascar movie series. A notable quote:
Excuse me, this is first class, its nothing personal, it’s just that we’re better than you
I had previously felt that my personal experience with Indian arrogance had been due to their understandable distain of me for my bad habit of dating their women. Now, I’m getting the feeling that this could be a characteristic of a measurable minority of Indians in the West. Many people do not notice this behavior from East Asians who often come across as humble, even if they feel differently in private.
As commenters in the Sailer thread noted: India is a craphole. While the 10 million or so ultra-selected Indians in 1st world countries are relatively successful, a majority of the 1.5 billion South Asians in the world live mired in poverty comparable to that of the average African. Lynn gives India an average IQ of 81 (their tested score was 79) and the surrounding South Asian countries IQs of 80 or below. Long-existent Indian diaspora communities in the Caribbean and Southeast Pacific are hardly impressive.
So what is there for Indians to be arrogant about? Similar behavior has also been seen from some upper-class professional blacks; redneck southerners even have a term for it: uppity.
I think an HBD explanation exists for this behavior. According to Jason Richwine, the average Indian-American IQ is 112. This is more than two-standard deviations above their national mean. Similarly, it takes an IQ of 110 or so to pass calculus, something only a small percentage of blacks would be able to do. My theory: given that most racial groups spend their formative years around each other, successful blacks and Indians are well-aware of their intellectual superiority over their co-ethnics. This may lead them to assume they are also vastly mentally superior to members of other groups. Presently, differences in average intelligence exist between groups, whether or not they are heavily genetic remains to be seen.
It will be interesting to see the developmental trajectory of India though. International investors are under the impression that India is the next China. Many of them went to the orient 20 years ago and saw a desperately impoverished Chinese state. They expect similar progress from India, they may be disappointed.